Yesterday, at the grocery store, I saw a woman in a bright red shirt which read,

“It’s God’s job to judge the terrorists.
It’s OUR job to arrange the meeting.”

I couldn’t believe it.

You know, despite my disgust with all the rantings I see everywhere about our country and its moral demise, and while I do consider myself a pacifist of sorts… I’m appalled and ashamed that people representing our country think it’s their job to take someone’s life away. After all, isn’t that exactly what the terrorists think?

I preferred my delusion that we killed in defense, and that the initial intent of the weapons was to scare and intimidate. How’s that for optimism?

Stopping terrorism is very different than saying, “Let’s go kill the bastards.”

I just don’t get it.

11 Comments on “American Terrorists

  1. There are two points i would like to make:I agree with you I find it offensive that others want to take someone elses life and, in our freedom of speech we must tolerate their beliefs, that is what makes our society.If we lose tolerance we become like them.Peter (Lotherin @ SU)

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  2. I see your points, Peter, and it gave me pause…However, I also believe that our right to live (and others’ rights to live) is unalienable. Our Declaration of Independence says so.Yes, we’re all entitled to our beliefs, but the belief that our assumed moral superiority as Americans gives us the right – not even just the right, but the shirt said the “job” – to take someone’s life away simply because we don’t like the way they behave doesn’t fly with me.This is such a tricky area. But, in my defense, “tolerance” doesn’t mean I can’t blog my feelings about seeing that shirt. It’s not like I got my own shirt that says, “let’s go kill all the Marines.”🙂

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  3. Dear Anonymous,Your essay is welcome and well-written. Thanks for adding your comments.I hope you don’t mind if I post a rebuttal, and I hope it’s not offensive to you – it’s merely my belief.Here’s what it boils down to for me: PERSPECTIVE.If I take your words, and plug in “American” for “terrorist” and vice-versa, a “terrorist” could have written the same thing about the Marines and other military, who have been, at times, killing their innocent people, too.And they will defend their actions as self-defense, because we have been occupying their holy territory for years and years. I assume you are a man, because your comment about living in a society “free from persecution” made me snicker a little, to be honest. Women are still discriminated against here. So are blacks and lots of other ethnic groups. It wasn’t so long ago that women couldn’t even vote, but thank god we didn’t have some foreign military over here killing people in order to bring women more freedom.I do hope the Marines don’t really believe that they are sacrificing their lives for me. I certainly did not need or expect for them to do that. I understand that maybe that’s the belief that gets them through the day, and what the brain-washing government wants them to believe, but the truth is that most of us here in America are very safe most of the time, and many of us don’t want the military killing anyone else in our names.I used to work with men and women from all branches of the military, and I found Marines to be the most arrogant of all, so yes, I can assume that they make very, very good soldiers.I can appreciate the fact that they are following their commands and their beliefs to the bitter end, sacrificing all for that, but that is their PERSPECTIVE. Just as the terrorists believe that they, too, are killing in the name of their god, and for some higher purpose. To me, it’s all the same. We’re just on different teams, waving different flags.It takes two to fight. Someone needs to be the bigger person (country) and just STOP.And yes, I will admit that it’s easy for me to pontificate from the safety and comfort of my living room couch. My heart truly goes out to every man and woman who finds themselves fighting this war, and to their families who wait anxiously for their return. My wish is for all to have health and happiness and life, just as I wish the same for people all around the globe, regardless of which country they find themselves born into.Lisa

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  4. Hi Lisa:It is me, Anon, once again. Thank you for being accepting enough to know that I need not be shouted down upon to have a civilized dialogue.I will provide you my rebuttal – I’m certainly not offended by anyone’s opinion, that is your right.1. “If I take your words, and plug in “American” for “terrorist” and vice-versa, a “terrorist” could have written the same thing about the Marines and other military, who have been, at times, killing their innocent people, too.”Correct me if I am wrong but the last time I checked the Marines were not flying planes into the buildings killing innocent children and people of ALL races and religions and claiming Israel should be wiped off the map. I don’t even think I used the word “American” in my last posting so I’m not quite sure how you could insert “terrorist” and it would make sense? Could you help me understand that?2. “And they will defend their actions as self-defense, because we have been occupying their holy territory for years and years.”Can you please help me understand what you mean by occupy? I’ve never known the USA or its military to be stationed in any country it is not welcome. Aside from a war, could you provide me an example? I just want to ensure I understand your argument.3. “I assume you are a man, because your comment about living in a society “free from persecution” made me snicker a little, to be honest. Women are still discriminated against here. So are blacks and lots of other ethnic groups. It wasn’t so long ago that women couldn’t even vote, but thank god we didn’t have some foreign military over here killing people in order to bring women more freedom.”Can you give me an example of women being discriminated against? I’m pretty sure discrimination and persecution are two completely different things. It is interesting that you mention there is still discrimination against blacks – if you are a democrat (which I assume you are), you might know of the following individuals:George Wallacehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wall…Bull Connorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_Connor…Bob Byrdhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_ByrdAll of these individuals were democrats and part of the KKK. In addition, it was the democrats in the Southern States wanting to keep blacks as slaves. 4. “I do hope the Marines don’t really believe that they are sacrificing their lives for me. I certainly did not need or expect for them to do that. I understand that maybe that’s the belief that gets them through the day, and what the brain-washing government wants them to believe, but the truth is that most of us here in America are very safe most of the time, and many of us don’t want the military killing anyone else in our names.”On September 11, 2001, the World Trade Center had thousands of people heading to work that day, all of them feeling “safe” until their lives were turned around by the events that shook the nation. The reason you feel safe is that our government is working tirelessly to ensure you are safe and keeping the terrorists busy on their own turf, not ours. The only people the military is killing are homocidal maniacs intent on spreading IslamoFacism. May I ask what it is you think our military is doing?5. “I used to work with men and women from all branches of the military, and I found Marines to be the most arrogant of all, so yes, I can assume that they make very, very good soldiers.”Well, I certainly wouldn’t want our best soldiers to be insecure and short on self-confidence. 6. “I can appreciate the fact that they are following their commands and their beliefs to the bitter end, sacrificing all for that, but that is their PERSPECTIVE. Just as the terrorists believe that they, too, are killing in the name of their god, and for some higher purpose.”I don’t know anyone that thinks the war in Iraq is about our God versus their god. May I ask where you got that impression?7. “It takes two to fight. Someone needs to be the bigger person (country) and just STOP.”I sure wish they had a country – it would certainly make things a lot easier. Unfortuntately, terrorists have no loyalty to a specific country, they are only loyal to jihad.Lisa, with all due respect, I hear your opinion but it seems that it is just that, an opinion. It would certainly help if you had facts to support your perspective. Your argument sounds like a lot of the liberal rhetoric passed around colleges these days but not many people are passing around facts. I once was a liberal (in college) and soon after I graduated, I realized I loved my country. I hope that you too realize it is not as bad as you think and your country is not the enemy.God bless.Ryan (Anon)

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  5. Ryan,Well, just a few words in response…When I wrote about the “plugging in American for Terrorist” thing, I was speaking conceptually, not literally. I meant that you could use the same arguments on both sides of the fence. We may not be flying planes into buildings, but I’ve seen pictures of us dropping bombs on them. I was not trying to take a position on who is right and who is wrong. I’m merely saying that each army has its own PERSPECTIVE.Also, I’d like to mention that no, I am not a Democrat, nor have I ever been affiliated with that political party. However, some of my recent ancestors were members of the KKK, which I find abhorrent. Thank goodness that it’s possible for future generations to turn away from ideas which have been pounded into us by authority figures, and that we can form new, more loving and practical belief systems.On the issue of safety, no, I do not feel safe because of the government. I feel safe because statistics tell me I’m much more likely to die of cancer than to die in a terrorist attack. In fact, because of this war, I feel MORE afraid of terrorist retaliation in America. You answered your own question about the religious factors in this war when you mentioned Jihad. I’m not going to go head-to-head with you on every point, because I want to practice what I preach, and that is to allow others to have beliefs which may be very different from my own, without engaging in war with them over it. Please don’t misinterpret my silence on a subject as acquiescence; I can debate until my face turns blue.I never claimed to have anything but “opinions” here, just as you have yours. You might be interested in reading another article I wrote called < HREF="http://myunwrittenpages.blogspot.com/2007/01/im-exhausted-from-war-daily-casualties.html" REL="nofollow">“On War and Beliefs.”<> It’s a January, 2007 entry.I hope you’ll continue to drop by, and I welcome your comments any time.Lisa

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  6. I have edited the email address from this previous post at the request of the writer. The sequence is now out of whack, but this post was from 11/2/07 at 3:11 am

    Anonymous said…

    Lisa:

    I am a random stranger brought to your blog by the wonders of the internet.

    I, too, saw the same message, only it was on a bumper sticker, not a T-shirt. The big difference is that I think it is quite honest and amusing, not offensive.

    To help you understand the true meaning of it, I'll break it down:

    1. “However, I also believe that our right to live (and others' rights to live) is unalienable. Our Declaration of Independence says so.”

    It certainly is which is why I am curious to know why you believe a lunatic in a mask murdering innocent children, mothers, fathers and anyone that stands in their way to spread IslamoFascism has any rights at all?

    2. “Yes, we're all entitled to our beliefs, but the belief that our assumed moral superiority as Americans gives us the right – not even just the right, but the shirt said the “job” – to take someone's life away simply because we don't like the way they behave doesn't fly with me.”

    I don't think anyone is claiming moral superiority. However, the fact remains that you live in a society free from persecution. Wouldn't you want that for other women? Moreover, I'm not quite sure what you mean by behaving. I mean if you truly think murdering innocent people is a behavior problem, I think we might need to discuss morals a bit more in depth.

    3. “But, in my defense, “tolerance” doesn't mean I can't blog my feelings about seeing that shirt. It's not like I got my own shirt that says, “let's go kill all the Marines.”

    I hope not. Those Marines sacrifice their lives for you. They have families they want to come home to and hug and love. They are there for you, me, and the rest of this country to ensure that we fight terrorists on their soil and prevent another 9/11. I don't know if you have ever known a Marine but I can tell you, if you hang around them long enough, you'll begin to understand what bravery really means.

    God bless.

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  7. You are retarded, three words Freedom Isn't Free unless you honestly believe that we could just sit down and “talk” this through with people who are willing to kill themselves in order to kill us? I say there is no other choice

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  8. “I do hope the Marines don't really believe that they are sacrificing their lives for me. I certainly did not need or expect for them to do that.”

    If you were in many other countries the simple fact that you were a woman would prohibit you from writing a blog such as this one. A blog where you can speak your mind about anything you so wish. You live in a country that allows you to not only speak your opinion but to actually have an opinion. These terrorists' countries would stone and kill a woman for speaking out.
    You are correct that there is still a lot of discrimination against women and minorities. That discrimination very rarely leads to killing those women and minorities.
    The men and women of our military do fight and risk their lives for you. To me it makes them heroic and brave and selfless that they fight for someone who doesn't expect it as you say.
    I disagree when you say that you don't need them fighting for you however. If it weren't for the brave men and women of our military you might have more issues then being offended from someone wearing a shirt you do not agree with.

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  9. Victoria,

    Thank you for your post; I appreciate your comments.

    I see your point.

    If I were not able to express my opinions publicly, it would be sad, for sure, but no government can take my opinions away. They are mine, whether I voice them or not.

    And as much as I might like to be able to blog about my beliefs, I would never think having the right to do so would be worth lost lives. I would gladly give up my right to blog to save a life.

    It's unfortunate that some people are born into situations that seem unfair. Some people right here in America live in very unfair circumstances. I do not believe killing others is the best resolution to problems.

    I appreciate that military men and women are following orders and protecting our country the best way they know how, or the way they have been taught. I respect their discipline and fortitude.

    And I think I'll just leave it at that.

    Peace,
    Lisa

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